The Listening Room

It seemed like as good a time as any to give you a peak into the AudioStream listening room(s). I converted a spare bedroom by removing the carpet and leaving the plywood sub-floor exposed (yes, my wife is very understanding). In general in hi-fi, I go with the dictum wood is good. You'll see some homemade room treatments hanging on the freshly painted walls which were necessary since this room is for the most part devoid of typical lived-in stuff. I prefer books as room treatment as you'll see below but empty rooms do not sound good. In any event, this is the place where the listening and writing (and enjoying) happens.

The Main Room

Dimensions: 12 x 14 x 9’ with entry alcove which is where my desk sits
Computers: MacBook Pro (2011, OSX 6.8, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, 4GB Ram), Acer PC (Windows 7, AM3410-UR21P, AMD Athlon II X4 645 3.1GHz, 4GB DDR3), iMac (OS X 10.6.8, 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3, 8GB 1333 MHz DDR3)
Analog Source: Rega P3, Denon 103, Auditorium 23 step up transformer
CD Source: Sony PS1, Acoustic Plan DriveMaster (on loan)*
USB DAC: Acoustic Plan DigiMaster (on loan)
Preamplifier: RS-30EQ Phono Preamplifier (on loan)
Integrated Amplifier: Leben CS-300XS (on loan)
Speakers: DeVore Fidelity The Nines
Headphones: Stax SR-5, Audio Technica ATH-W1000
Cable: Shindo and Auditorium 23 ICs, PHY ICs, Auditorium 23 speaker cable, stock power cords
Rack: Ikea Lack coffee table
Power: Wiremold outlet strip
Room Treatment: home made + Echo Absorber felt panels
External Hard Drive: LaCie d2 Quadra USB (1TB)
NAS: Seagate BlackArmor NAS 220 (2TB)
Router: Netgear N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router WNDR3700
Switch: Netgear ProSafe 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch

*You’ll see a number of pieces of gear marked (on loan). These represent components that I will not review due to my relationship with Jonathan Halpern the US Importer for this loaner gear. Jonathan and I are friends, having developed a friendship over the course of years as I auditioned Shindo and Auditorium 23 products that I eventually bought. Today we mostly share music.

The Library

Analog Source: Auditorium 23 Nouvelle Platine turntable with Shindo RF-773 Mersault tonearm, Shindo SPU and Auditorium 23 Hommage step up
Preamplifier: Shindo Monbrison
Amplifier: Shindo Cortese
Speakers: Auditorium 23 Solovox
Cable: Shindo ICs, Auditorium 23 speaker cable, stock power cords
Rack: Custom made Box Furniture Co. “Fallen ‘A’” with LignoLab footers
Power: Wiremold outlet strip
Room Treatment: books and records

Other

Fi 45 Prototype
JC Morrison 6B4G monoblocks
SAC Thailand Minute Integrated Amp (EL84)
Sansui AU555 Integrated Amp
Altec Valencias (1967)
Horn Shoppe Horns
Spare Sony PS1s
iPad 2
iPhone

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mcondo's picture
A Diagonal Set-up!

Your listening roon is set up diagonally, very similar to mine and we both run modest floorstanders (Mine are ProAc D-15's). I have fussed with this set up forever relative to positioning, toe-in, etc. My situation is compounded by not having a precisely positioned chair (Living room so WAF is involved). Did you do anything different due to the diagonal set-up? Any tips? 

Michael Lavorgna's picture
My main tip is...

Speaker setup is at least a two-person job. I was lucky and had three of us here and one of them was John DeVore who designed the speakers and the other was Stephen Mejias.

In this room, the move to the diagonal setup (John's idea) was an immediate and fairly dramatic improvement in every way. Placement is critical and small changes can offer large gains (that's one good reason why you need at least 2 people so you can listen while the other person does the moving). I put up the wall treatments after the speakers were positioned.

ZombieFish's picture
Ikea

Where would any of us be if it wasn't for Ikea.

Both set ups are very nice.  I am jelous.

Michael Lavorgna's picture
I (heart) Ikea

And there's another larger Expedit rack filled with LPs in the Library (but its camera shy).

PeteRoth's picture
4MB RAM

I too was looking for a 2011 MacBookPro with 4MB or RAM, but had to *settle* for 4GB instead.    hahahaha.  Good thing you can fix that in this virtual mag environment!

Have you had much sausage and bone marrow lately?  Great meeting you at RMAF.  Keep up the good work!  - Pete -

Michael Lavorgna's picture
I'm sure

I don't know what you mean (thanks for catching that ;-)

Great meeting you! and I think it's best to limit my marrow intake to once a year. Can't wait for our October 2012 helping.

deckeda's picture
Nice!

Rooms and setups both look great from over here, Michael. Two questions:

1) What's each turntable's isolation from footfalls like, as you've got them setup?

2) No feedback from the left DeVore, either? Looks pretty close to the Rega.

Michael Lavorgna's picture
Thanks!

1) For the Library system which is where I do my seriously fun vinyl listening, the answer is a few-fold: the rack that the TT sits on weighs over 200lbs and it in turn sits on the Ligno Lab footers that employ a spring damping system (springs are matched to the total load of the rack + gear). The ‘table itself also has a number of features to deal with isolation including spring-loaded footers and a 25lb platter which ‘rests’ on an oil bearing.

I can literally jump up and down next to the rack while a record is playing (and I have) and the turntable just laughs.

For the Rega P3 in the Listening room, I have ebony footers under the Ikea rack (left-over from use as speaker footers) but other than that, just what the P3 offers. I don’t jump up and down as much here because this is where I work so I’m much more serious.

2) Nope. No issues due to the proximity of The Nines to the P3.

huck870's picture
Rega P3

Thanks for inviting us into your listening rooms. Was wondering how you like the Rega P3 table? I've recently won a Music Hall USB-1 and have really enjoyed the re-entry into vinyl. I'm on the hunt for an upgraded table and the P3 looks like a good value.

Thanks - also enjoyed listening to the podcast with Scott Wilkinson.

 

Mike

Michael Lavorgna's picture
My pleasure, Mike

I'm a fan of the Rega P3 but it has been replaced by the P3-24 and there's also the RP-1 and RP-3. I'd shoot Stephen Mejias an email and ask his opinion since he's much more 'current' on the newer Rega 'tables.

deckeda's picture
Michael Fremer

Reviewed the P3-24's replacement, the RP-3 in the December Stereophile, and outlines some differences in this latest version of the '3, which comes with a new arm and new plinth, if I recall.

Michael Lavorgna's picture
Yes, Michael Fremer reviewed the P3-24

in the December issue (p.29). Thanks for pointing that out!

I'd also recommend a lengthy browse of the Stereophile site's turntable reviews where you can read, among many others, Art Dudley's take on the Rega RP-1.

deckeda's picture
My December copy must be different than yours.

If it weren't a Zinio version I could sell my issue on eBay and be rich, Rich, RICH, I tells ya!

huck870's picture
RP-3

Thanks to you both. I have the December issue of Stereophile and will check the review. It occurred to me that I shouldn't be asking about a turntable on a computer audio site, so thanks for the reply. 

Michael Lavorgna's picture
No problem and...

I very much enjoy listening to LPs on turntables so I welcome the diversion ;-)

Stephen Scharf's picture
Great room, great site and great writing

Michael,

I just found Audiostream a few days ago and it is a terrific website, resource and and source of information and discussion.

Regarding your room setup, I also, after much experimentation, found that "sitting along the diagonal" in my small and somewhat unorthodox listening area produced notably the best results in sound quality. I backed this up with hard data when I was doing in-room real-time frequency response measurements with Room Equalization Wizard and Design of Experiments* to optimize the setup and placement of my REL sub in my system. What was nice about the measurements is that they confirmed my "anecdotal" listening tests that listening along the diagonal really sounded the best.

Regarding Rega turntables, I've had a Rega Planar 3 for the better part of 30 years as one of of my tables, but recently bought a Rega P5 when they were notably discounted to $995 prior to their discontinuation with the recent advent of the new RP-6. i've always been intrigued by the P5 as it seemed the sweet spot in the Rega lineup for performance per dollar, and at that price, seemed to good to pass up. I bought one with the nice cherry wood surround. 

I also have a much more "high-end" table (a Mchell Gryo SE MKII, SME V w/ Koetsu Urushi Vermilion), but I have to go on record saying just how very, very impressed I am with the Rega P5. I put my (used) Shelter 501MkII on this "modest" table, and it really gives my über-trick Michell a serious run for the money; if I were to hazard a guess, I would say the P5 delivers 80% of the performance of the Michell for about 1/6th the cost. 

I know the P5 is now discontinued, but if you're ever thinking about a step up from the P3, consider picking up a nice, used P5; this is extremely impressive table for the money. Something else to consider installing is a Groovetracer Reference subplatter; this precision aftermarket subplatter is much more preciesly made than the stock Delrin subplatter and utilizes a sapphire jewel on the business of the thrust bearing, and a replacement zirconium oxide ball bearing. This subplatter dramatically lowers the noise floor of any Rega deck, and on already quiet table like the P5, takes the performance up another notch. Very highly recommended. 

Lastly, let me close by saying that I find your writing to be more insightful, erudite, interesting and enjoyable to read than any audio writer this side of Art Dudley. Your writing reminds me much of the founder of an excellent photography blog, The Online Photographer, Michael Johnston, a very fine photography writer. Keep up the excellent work.

 

Best regards,

Stephen Scharf.

*-If you would like to know more about the use of Design of Experiments in setting up a system, let me know at scharfsj@ix.netcom.com; I think you will find it a rather fascinating approach.

Michael Lavorgna's picture
Thank you Stephen

You are too kind. I was and remain a big fan of Art's Listener Magazine (I have a complete set and a stick-on tattoo!) so I very much appreciate being viewed anywhere within his vicinity.

And thanks for the information and comments on the Rega P5. I may do something some day in terms of the P3 but I mainly listen to vinyl in the library on the A23 ‘table. I’ll check out the Room Equalization Wizard and Design of Experiments eq tools as well.

Cheers.

deckeda's picture
Another plug for Michael Johnston

I agree, he's a fine writer, a genuine good guy and his blog is great. He'll also comment on music, cars, fine audio sometimes.

Stephen Scharf's picture
Design of Experiments

Michael,

While you can research Design of Experiments (DOE), it does require some training in statistical methods and a software package like JMP, Minitab, Design Expert. It's somewhat on the complex side of things to do the analysis and one needs to understand the principles of DOE, which are based on ANOVA, in order to deisgn the experiment and use the DOE software packages. 

One can start here as a primer:

http://66.39.28.179/forums/showthread.php?t=234216&highlight=design+expe...

Regards,

Stephen.

nunh's picture
The floor deal...

is really neurotic - reminds me of the crazy kind of thing I would do lol! Love it